Hey Guys,
i want to read some threads on oxidemod but i get redirected to umod.
my fault or a general redirect?

If its a redirect can you lock the opening from new threads and import it to umod in a archiv folder or something?

We no longer use oxidemod.org. Anything there will be redirecting here. We are not doing an import of forums content, only plugins.

So basically you have took the sole decision of making years of information unavailble with no way to access it. at the very least you should make the old forum posts avaiable on for example a subdomain(maybe: archived.umod.org). if hosting it is an issue i would be happy to try and arrange something.

I like what your trying to do with this new site but it does not yet meet the needs of the many due to the lack of information available.

Thanks for the feedback, but this was not a sole decision and certainly not an easy one. We also have never had full control over oxidemod.org nor its database, which is partly why we are here now.  A lot of the information at oxidemod.org is/was dated and no longer relevant as well, but the majority of it is still accessible there for the time being. If you'd like to see an archive of a page, web.archive.org can hook you up as well.

It's not an issue about being able to host it, it's about not physically holding those domain names and the hosts that are only willing to part with them for a considerable amount of money.

Appologies if i came across as directing it at you as a person, I was refering to you as leaders/owners/decision makers of umod/oxide. 

web.archive.org is good but is a nightmare to use when your looking for something specific.
Most of the results are on google, so if i search for my problem on google im having to do several redirects and still not finding the information i need... even though it exists.

Im presuming you have access to the oxide forums(in order to apply the redirects), if you was to create an archieve on the umod domain. it would be as simple as installing a fresh copy of xenforo forum on the new sub domain and then using a export/import plugin for xenforo to pull all the topics/posts over to the new installation.

At that point you could then lock all topics in the "archieve" and set the old domain to redirect to the relevent archive page.
this would also fix the issue of thousands of now invalid google search results.

If doing this is not an option, then thats fine.. il say no more but consider this... right now many of the users you are redirecting to umod are stressed, angry and disapointed users looking for information thats inaccessable... most of them will get directed to your website and then go back to google(and repeat).

having an archive would considerably improve the chances of the user sticking around and engaging with the community.

Editing a template is not the same sort of access as exporting, we've never had access to any of the actual site files. Like I said previously, fully understand the frustration, and if it could have been avoided we could have. It's been just as much of a frustration for you as us to have no real control over the domains and site until now, and not really having any say on what happens with them; which we've been dealing with for years.

Truth of the matter is that someone is always going to be unhappy about something, but in the end we are here slaving away to make things work and continue to work with little to nothing in return. So if you want to stick around or not, that's up to you, but we're doing the best that we can given the access and resources we have available to us.

in that case for now instead of auto redirecting... would it not be better to just apply an alert at the top of every forum page linking people to umod.
something like: "this forum is no longer maintained, All further discusion should be continued at: https://umod.org/community".

a little bit of css/js would be able to remove the post reply box so that nobody can contiue topics on there which would force them to come here if they cant find the anwser there.

that way people know where to go when they need more info and and are not being redirected all over the show just to end up back on google.

I'm sure improvements could be made, it was applied rather quickly given the current host situation there.

We appreciate your input and we will fully admit that some aspects of the transition are less than ideal.  That said, our options are limited.  The reason why we're doing this transition at all is largely the same reason why the transition is less than ideal.  Lack of access & control.  In other words, we do not have the access required to properly maintain OxideMod, nor do we have the access necessary to do a "proper" migration.

Let me try to explain this in some more detail so you can understand where we're coming from..

Imagine for a moment, that you had put 4 years of (volunteer) effort into maintaining and developing on a popular platform (for a free and open-source project) that was abandoned by the original creators, with no way to make substantive changes to the platform.  Sure, you could use the platform that already existed, but as far as fixing fundamental bugs, adding new features, or doing anything of real importance - you were cut off.

Also, imagine that because you do not have that access, you are beholden to the whims of a third-party with whom you already have an antagonistic relationship with, who does not really support your project, and who could pull the plug or sell off the assets at any time without any consultation or warning.

Believe me when I say, as frustrating as this may be for some users who relied on the old platform, it was doubly frustrating for us who were in charge of maintaining it.  That is our situation, that's why we're here now.

Deleting members accounts was one thing you did have full control over and was not needed and not all acounts have been removed a warning of what was going to happen would of been the best way to go and no need for the redirects as said above there are many of better ways you could of done this that would of stopped all these problems

@Resistance

We are sorry for the inconvenience.  The situation I described in my previous post is obviously more complicated than I let on.  I'm not going to go into great detail, but I will say there is some jockeying for position and posturing going on, which to a great extent is out of our control and we would obviously prefer to be different.  There is some fallout from that and in some cases general users will bear the brunt of a conflict that they don't understand or even see.  I humbly and graciously ask you to use your Christian compassion, we are doing the best we can with the our limited time and resources.

@Calytic
I do fully understand but I was helping someone with a problem in a pm and was about to do it over skype but got my account deleted before I got the info the redirect does not bother me its the deleting of my account that is and as not every account was deleted that is something that was decided by the admin

@crazyR17 The beauty of a fresh start is the information found over here will all be fresh. If you have a question then feel free to create a thread and expect fresh and accurate answers. Many times responses greater than just 5-6 months could very well be inaccurate due to things changing. Hooks are changed and removed just as fast as they're added.

PS: I don't care much for change but if it's a step in the right direction I'll get over it. ;)

So it looks like someone was listening and replaced the automatic redirect with a huge banner... thats great, thank you.

@Death I agree a fresh start was definaitly needed and alot of the information is stale on the oxide forums, But with that being said, people like me dont need everything explaining detail by detail.. so most of the time i can make sense of the stale info and figure out what is diffrent. I agree that asking in here is a great idea but in realitly i have less that a couple of hours to do development work for my server per day as i also run a company. waiting on responses if the info is already available is frustrating.

I said it before, i love what umod is becoming, I envisage great things once the transistion is done... I do however feel it would be a wise idea for the decition makers to involve the community in the decition making proccess where possible. maybe vote systems for choices being made etc?

@crazyR17

uMod will always have a large free and open-source component, and many FOSS projects do have polling, requests for comment (RFC), and voting committees.  This is not a bad idea or out of character for that side of uMod.  That being said, uMod has largely been a labor of love for those involved for a long time.  Our main priorities right now are:

1. Get the uMod website in working order, optimized, as a long term tool for plugin developers to create and support plugins.
2. Improve the security and integrate uMod core into the new uMod platform
3. Monetize the platform using 3 different monetization schemes, allowing the core development team to ensure quick and stable updates for the forseeable future.