Hey all, sorry for the rant, but why do we allow others to profit from the good work done?

"Pay VIP and get access to plugins that should be fre for all"

The reason I query is that I have made several plugins that do things like spawn NPC's at radtowns, bring back road spawning minicopters etc, folk who join are asking to have it to just put it behind a VIP paywall, I refuse and on that basis, and therefore, refuse to put it for access here.

My main point, it should  be put here and it should  be free for all to use, I feel the permission systems being abused for greed and needs a rethink...

I realise I'm new here and newer to plugins than most of you, so this has been a thing for a long time, I just think it's unfair.

I suppose that some server owners use VIP access payments to allow them to run a larger pop/ram/map/cpu speed server , I  dont have VIP's on my server and have no interest in charging people to play on it.  I already use plugins as described above but those devs have never remarked (afaik) on how server owners use those plugins once they have been released .

To update, Some mod changed the title of my post and got it oddly wrong. I have no issue paying for VIP servers, I take issue with putting free to use plugins behind a VIP paywall.

Please don't attempt to alter what I say, if you do not like my point of view, delete my post, please don't just reword.

@Pookins I'm with you, I dont use VIP, I just see more and more Twitch creators pushing to buy VIP to get Furnace splitter or box sorter, I especially don't want my work to simply line the pockets of the greedy.

I suppose I was more thinking at some token permission from some simple Umod API per account to be able to use plugins. I suppose until fareness is achieved, my botspawn remake plugin and others will stay soley on my servers :/ 

Adzthewise

To update, Some mod changed the title of my post and got it oddly wrong. I have no issue paying for VIP servers, I take issue with putting free to use plugins behind a VIP paywall.

Please don't attempt to alter what I say, if you do not like my point of view, delete my post, please don't just reword.

@Pookins I'm with you, I dont use VIP, I just see more and more Twitch creators pushing to buy VIP to get Furnace splitter or box sorter, I especially don't want my work to simply line the pockets of the greedy.

I suppose I was more thinking at some token permission from some simple Umod API per account to be able to use plugins. I suppose until fareness is achieved, my botspawn remake plugin and others will stay soley on my servers :/ 

I am glad to hear that, I have seen to many unsuccessful and poor imitations of Botspawn to welcome another one, I will stick to the original.

Well plugins released on uMod are under open source licenses so by releasing your plugin on uMod you are acknowledging that people can do whatever they please with your plugin. If you don't like this then you shouldn't release your plugins under open source licenses or at all since you can't really control how people use your plugins once they have it.

0x89A

Well plugins released on uMod are under open source licenses so by releasing your plugin on uMod you are acknowledging that people can do whatever they please with your plugin. If you don't like this then you shouldn't release your plugins under open source licenses or at all since you can't really control how people use your plugins once they have it.

I think ultimatly, we both know your right, but my rant is somewhat satisfied.

steemaroos botspawn works perfectly fine anyways.

GG

WebGhost

steemaroos botspawn works perfectly fine anyways.

GG

Very true and why all the fuss over a "Botspawn remake plugin"  , if it was a totally original plugin you could understand the attitude, but to use someone elses idea , change it a little and then worry about posting it here , lol x2

Late to the party, but who pays for the hosting? The plugins might be free, but the server isnt. Neither is the maintance. If someone wants to take a bunch of free plugins and set up a server, it still has costs behind it. I dont understand why so angry. You can take every plugin offered here and load it on a server.... it doesnt make a good server...  Configuring them to work together and mesh well takes time. While we appreciate everything plugin developers offer to the community, we spend time as server owners setting it up and maintaining it as well. Many of us donate...

Most of the servers do sell VIP for the kits which sounds shit because turns the game into P2W but because most of the time in x5/x10 server you can achieve everything easily without paying and the kit actually goes useless. No let's skip kits and move to the main topic... Plugins... As @Adzthewise said the idea to sell something which should be available for all players sucks. True but if you are like me being near vanilla (x2) and do not wanna sell VIP kits which sucks but at the same time you want to allow people supporting the server you have to add some plugins behind a paywall. My server was almost dead financial... I announced in Discord and one player sent me 200 bucks so I can cover the next 4months without asking for anything in return but still... People most of the time pay because they get something like perks/etc and we all know this.

If you do not wanna end up with a server offering essential stuff for only VIPs making game mechanics or cool new features P2W or not used by anyone you can do it of course. But if you want to make a balanced server allowing people to support at the same time you can tweak the stuff. For example, I had RustNET system with CCTVs before Facepunch add CCTVs in the game. Instead of allowing only VIPs to use it added max of 2 cameras for normals and 4 for VIPs... Same for other stuff... I have Taxi plugin in my server but VIP's only use cheap fares instead of limiting whole plugin to VIPs. Most of the time servers do add /skin for vips which do not change gameplay in any way but I still figure out cool way to do it. Normal users can loot skinned items from loot crates and use /skin but they pay 50scrap per evert re-skin... Yeah expensive but still skin is free for everyone, VIPs do use /skin for no cost. So it's up to you how you can configure the stuff like @phudgee said in your server and monetize it.

Edit: Uh it's an old thread. I am not sure if f*cked up replying here, sorry if messed with it.